Read John's whole conversation with the staffer, for some more flavor.John: But still, it's looking grim right?
Senate Aide X: They are in much worse shape now than a week ago. If the bill dies this week, it will be because Dems just let it crumble through infighting and the Tea Party/American people standing up in August and demanding through weeks of recent phone calls and protests that it be stopped.
John: If it were to pass somehow, do you think it could die going through ping pong, back and forth between the House?
Senate Aide X: No! Pelosi will rubber stamp whatever the Senate passes.
John: So, you think all these demands from the Left about the public option and the Blue Dogs saying they have to have the Stupak Amendment in there are all for show?
Senate Aide X: No, the left-roots passion is real, but if you are Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, you know this is a one shot deal. This moment won't happen again soon and it's better to cut any deal you can to socialize health care as much as you can now. Take the win, go for more later.
I think the 50/50 assessment is correct. The Democrats want to pass something, anything, for a variety of reasons.
First, not passing something will be a monumental failure for Reid and Obama; Pelosi already has done her job, so she will not be as tainted.
Second, something still will amount to a further massive governmental intrusion into our lives, the economy and the health care system; the details can be fixed -- from the Democratic perspective -- later on by attaching amendments to legislation against which Republicans cannot vote, or through other legislative maneuvers.
Third, there will be enormous pressure from the White House to pass something prior to the President's State of the Union Address.
50/50 is still very worrisome.
Assuming we get past Christmas, we need to bring some August-like pressure to bear in January.
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We will be on the alert but we must remember that we need to make this a 24/7 struggle as have the Democrats.
ReplyDeleteSomeone I read this weekend (I forget who) advanced this intriguing possibility: if Reid can't contrive a new gambit this week, or what he does contrive fails as the "Medicare-plus" one did, it's possible that a few moderate Dems will team up with a few willing GOPers to forge a "Gang of Six" (e.g., Lieberman, Nelson and Lincoln; Snowe, Collins and Graham) or "Gang of Eight," to basically take over the Senate process by announcing that they will hang together on a workable compromise and pledge to vote against anything else.
ReplyDeleteThis would give the centrist six or eight a way to oppose the ongoing craziness while still committing themselves to "reform" in 2010. They would be driving the train and everyone else would have to get on board or drop then whole thing.