tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post9016071847591657115..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Iran Plays The Meddle CardWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-37587397630439221362009-06-18T12:10:08.174-04:002009-06-18T12:10:08.174-04:00Broadway
> International law is not blind. If ...Broadway<br /><br />> International law is not blind. If it were, the Bush adminstration's invasion of Iraq wuold have started a firestorm. But does that makes it right?<br /><br />No. There was nothing at all illegal about Bush's invasion of iraq. Do you know how the first war ended? With a cease fire agreement. Now i know this is really complicated legal speak, but under a cease fire agreement, you have to CEASE FIRING. Saddam never did, therefore anytime we chose we had a right to start up the war again. It was only our forebearance that kept us from doing so sooner.<br /><br />And i might add, it is always morally right to kick down a dictator and give power to the people. Its in our declaration of independance.<br /><br />> That's a "free and fair" election, huh?<br /><br />Nope, of course not. But apparently Amadanutjob (or however you spell his name) couldn't deal with even that much sham democracy. before the election i thought maybe there wasn't enough of a difference between the two to favor one over the other. now that they have made it clear that they are terrified of him taking power, however, it is a pretty strong recommendation in my book. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that.<br /><br />> the perception of US interference would be a distracton <br /><br />Except even as we don't meddle, they accuse us of it, and people believe it anyway. if you are going to be accused of it either way, then you might as well do it.<br /><br />Besides it seems that the people protesting do want our help. That is why they write the signs in english, which was the point of another post on this site. i will trust in the views of the people on the street getting their heads smashed in over some guy half a world away, any day.A.W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10876021589516844048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-18675768858714241562009-06-18T11:23:58.135-04:002009-06-18T11:23:58.135-04:00Aaron said: why are you laboring under the delusio...Aaron said: <i>why are you laboring under the delusion that international law is "blind." It is not, and hasn't ever been.</i><br /><br />You're right. International law is not blind. If it were, the Bush adminstration's invasion of Iraq wuold have started a firestorm. But does that makes it right?<br /><br />Mousavi was chosen to run against Ahmadinejad by the theorcratic heirachy that actually runs the government. That's a "free and fair" election, huh? Still we should not get involved in their process specifically for the reason that the perception of US interference would be a distracton to the large protests that seem to be working. They're trying to accuse us of interference now for that very purpose.Broadway Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01644413332521237567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-85071327726266498782009-06-18T10:31:15.023-04:002009-06-18T10:31:15.023-04:00I wonder what those advocating interference in the...I wonder what those advocating interference in the Iranian elections would have said if Germany, France or even Iran had "meddled or interfered" with the 2004 US presidential election because they didn't like the outcome? I'd rather have them <i>accusing</i> us of meddling, then <i>actually</i> meddling.<br /><br />And these same bastions of liberty (yes, like John McCain) that are disappointed about not getting involved in another sovereign country's election were the same ones that were advocating the bombing of Iran not too long ago.Broadway Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01644413332521237567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-90401556235674514122009-06-18T09:29:53.012-04:002009-06-18T09:29:53.012-04:00mmm, that headline sounds very scooby doo.
Imagin...mmm, that headline sounds very scooby doo.<br /><br />Imagine the scene in iran:<br /><br />Fred: Now let's take a look at Mr. Ahmadinejad.<br /><br />Shaggy: Like dude, I am going to be in the mystery machine, um, treating my glaucoma.<br /><br />Velma: Hey, I think he is wearing a mask!<br /><br />Fred rips off the mask to reveal Ahmadinejad's real face.<br /><br />Fred, Daphne and Velma, together: Old man Winters!<br /><br />Winters: And I would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for you meddling Americans!<br /><br />---------------<br /><br />Seriously, I totally think we should answer this with mockery. Its that idea that Mel Brooks had of mocking hitler, making him a laughingstock.A.W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10876021589516844048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-1949799486641439342009-06-17T20:49:23.111-04:002009-06-17T20:49:23.111-04:00Um, Obama's "near silence achieved nothin...Um, Obama's "near silence achieved nothing" because Obama doesn't WANT to achieve anything as regards Iran because he doesn't CARE. If I have to watch those kids getting killed, I am going to freak the fuck out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-91510563691029558772009-06-17T17:14:02.077-04:002009-06-17T17:14:02.077-04:00Well, there was nothing that the great flip-flop ...Well, there was nothing that the great flip-flop could have done in the time since the election. The loan of his ACORN supporters seems to have done more than enough anyways, but without a serious UN presence to monitor the elections and try to guarantee a fair outcome this was predetermined. <br /><br />With the ruling clerics on his side, the whole election was a joke by Ahmadinejad on the people. He has control of the military and police forces, and unless the IRGC decides to stand with the protesters they are facing a nightmare. The luckiest of them will be those who are killed outright, because those who are leaders are not in for a pleasant time at all at the hands of the IRGC and the police.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08413720217316525855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-85457284411410861362009-06-17T15:52:47.734-04:002009-06-17T15:52:47.734-04:00At this point, it really doesn't seem to matte...At this point, it really doesn't seem to matter if you're liberal or conservative, the majority of our country overwhelmingly empathizes with the fact that the Iranian people are being denied basic rights that we take to be fundamental. The rest of the world has vehemently denounced the Iranian election. The only support Obama seems to be looking for is that of the Ahmadinejad regime itself. He must stand stronger than this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-9132043453413072992009-06-17T15:23:25.276-04:002009-06-17T15:23:25.276-04:00Sounds like when Iran got bent out of shape over t...Sounds like when Iran got bent out of shape over the U.S. allowing the then exiled Shah to come to the Mayo Clinic for cancer treatment and Iran starts screaming that we're helping to plot a coup then takes hostages. Iran sucks.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00995981511802074871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-56284216344446513222009-06-17T14:32:04.061-04:002009-06-17T14:32:04.061-04:00yeah i defended obama and i still won't get ma...yeah i defended obama and i still won't get mad at him for his decision, but clearly now he needs to lay it in to them with both barrels.A.W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10876021589516844048noreply@blogger.com