tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post8876237693045415308..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Palin's Turning PointWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-37473600229098410862009-12-14T16:58:26.557-05:002009-12-14T16:58:26.557-05:00The end, when the two of them walked off together ...The end, when the two of them walked off together showed that the whole thing was a friendly get together and all in fun. It made the entire skit work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08948061264564780402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-8722065356178711732009-12-14T12:50:59.382-05:002009-12-14T12:50:59.382-05:00I don't think it matters whether Palin runs fo...I don't think it matters whether Palin runs for president in 2012 or not. If she runs, she has a good chance to win. If she doesn't run, whoever she endorses will win.RebeccaHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15113907852048577121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-42556586893283236972009-12-14T07:26:05.039-05:002009-12-14T07:26:05.039-05:00She is very willing to poke fun at herself, someth...She is very willing to poke fun at herself, something many politicians are not. Self-mockery requires security in oneself, a certain amount of humility and a great sense of humor - characteristics not evident in Obama in particular and most lefties in general. <br /><br />Shatner was the perfect partner for her in this subversive, late-night appearance because he is not only an icon but easily partakes in the ridiculous. Palin appears to have won over everyone involved (Conan, Shatner, crew and audience). This is a gift that cannot be measured and cannot be acquired.<br /><br />Ridicule is diffused when the target basks in the ridicule and turns it back on the source. The target becomes likable in a way that causes big problems for his or her detractors.Peg C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06551207217057903731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-58021355759882317452009-12-14T07:04:15.948-05:002009-12-14T07:04:15.948-05:00Astute observation, Stray Yellar Dawg?
Call it th...Astute observation, Stray Yellar Dawg?<br /><br /><em>Call it the fourth wave [of feminism] if you want. But . . . I like to think of it as a return to the first wave.</em><br /><br />Everything that was old is new, and it appeals not just to the younger generation but to women -- and a lot of men -- of all ages.Sissy Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04316411260777111360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-8282063703377679952009-12-14T06:39:07.871-05:002009-12-14T06:39:07.871-05:00Treacher: love to get my hands on that soap!Treacher: love to get my hands on that soap!Wayne Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05508218045400197384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-16569322350893384122009-12-14T06:31:56.947-05:002009-12-14T06:31:56.947-05:00I love this post and the spirited comment thread. ...I love this post and the spirited comment thread. Sarah brings out the best in people who are paying attention. Commenter coolpillow1111 says it all<br /><br /><em>Palin and Shatner- it was a match made in heaven!</em><br /><br />As I wrote the other day in "<a href="http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2009/12/the-gops-secret-weapon-william-shatner.html" rel="nofollow">The GOP's secret weapon: William Shatner</a>":<br /><br /><em>William Shatner's dueling dance with Sarah Palin on "The Tonight Show" last night was pure Denny Crane, the lovably lecherous lawyer he played in Boston Legal.</em>Sissy Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04316411260777111360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-58597113212906038362009-12-14T06:25:24.930-05:002009-12-14T06:25:24.930-05:00Sarah is well on her way. She is appealing to a yo...Sarah is well on her way. She is appealing to a younger generation of conservatives. And particularly young conservative women. <br /><br />That can't be a bad thing for Conservatives as a whole. Can it?<br /><br />I am gonna go one step farther and say that the GOP should be bowing at the altar of John McCain for lifting Sarah from obscurity to be the new face of Conservatism. There is so much genius in that ... I can't really cover it all here. Except to say ... <br /><br />Liberals have lost their way where feminism is concerned. Sarah has arrived on the scene at a time when she is sorely needed for the next generation of young women. Just as the Third Wave of Feminism has crashed upon the shore with an epic FAIL, by trying to embrace too much "diversity" and "cultural relativism." <br /><br />The Third Wave's embrace of all things Islam is the harbinger of it's relativistic demise. <br /><br />Sarah represents the return of a Susan B. Anthony/ E.C. Stanton style of feminism. Call it the fourth wave if you want. But... I like to think of it as a return to the first wave.Stray Yellar Dawg?https://www.blogger.com/profile/04861846247063603370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-16274700278152543212009-12-14T06:18:28.447-05:002009-12-14T06:18:28.447-05:00If Palin runs for the nomination and does well, th...If Palin runs for the nomination and does well, the republicans will not be split. The entire superficial case against Palin is that she is not electable. If she clearly is electable, that case collapses and they will fall in line despite themselves. The Frum crowd are followers, not leaders.Grameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14929389788222842031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-71070646995094806112009-12-14T04:13:29.852-05:002009-12-14T04:13:29.852-05:00The mouth-foaming dead-enders of the left must hav...The mouth-foaming dead-enders of the left must have hated the crowd response.... which is a good thing.Hucbaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17111826753868595100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-83921564391767375022009-12-14T02:47:56.165-05:002009-12-14T02:47:56.165-05:00Palin, by contrast, established her popularity ind...<i>Palin, by contrast, established her popularity independent of, and despite, the entertainment media.</i><br /><br />I'd go even further than that. They're the ones who've made her such a phenomenon. They've turned her into a symbol for everybody who's ever been helplessly frustrated by the media's left-wing bias. And after a year of non-stop attacks on anybody who dares to disagree with Barry & Nancy & Co., that's a lot of people.<br /><br />Sarah Palin is kind of like a bar of soap in the bath: The harder they try to crush her into a pulp, the higher she flies.Jim Treacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017237457295504767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-24954520026385615412009-12-14T01:11:32.753-05:002009-12-14T01:11:32.753-05:00Could the media be supporting Palin because they s...Could the media be supporting Palin because they see that a split repub. ticket is to their advantage?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929488035798736935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-47412766069424297632009-12-14T00:28:36.645-05:002009-12-14T00:28:36.645-05:00I'm not certain about Sarah Palin as "our...I'm not certain about Sarah Palin as "our" candidate in 2012, but while watching the Sunday Night Football game this evening I was heartened to see that the promo for Tonight Show/Conan led with about 5 seconds of Palin from her appearance.<br /><br />I was, to say the least, shocked.<br /><br />Turning point? Hmmmmmmm.....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14491886394260727900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-22421445484686343252009-12-14T00:06:52.087-05:002009-12-14T00:06:52.087-05:00"And I have loved watching the liberal heads ..."And I have loved watching the liberal heads explode as they beg the media to stop giving her a platform."<br /><br />Which is the standard liberal response to people they disagree with. They want to censor them, instead of out-argue them. You can see it in the global warming "debate" and President Obama's attempts to exclude Fox News from official events. Andrew Klavan describes their technique as "Shut up, they explained."<br /><br />http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=video&video-id=1612Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-70765613528489614392009-12-13T23:42:17.968-05:002009-12-13T23:42:17.968-05:00Like the WaPo OpEd, and Oprah, The Tonight Show ma...Like the WaPo OpEd, and Oprah, The Tonight Show managed to get significant buzz and hits from Mrs. Palin. As Harper Collins has learned, you can make a lot more money WITH Mrs. Palin than against her. Let Editor and Publisher sniff and gripe: they're going out of business.<br /><br />What do you suppose William Shatner would give to get Mrs. Palin on his interview show? And what do you think the chances of Letterman getting a visit from Sarah Palin?Steve Polinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06095291939072131815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-72944480844789892632009-12-13T23:39:52.235-05:002009-12-13T23:39:52.235-05:00The real reason it was a turning point is because ...The real reason it was a turning point is because of the audience response to her appearance. It showed that her appeal is not limited to a narrow base of fans, or just people in flyover country.grimsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11124061125268651806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-13619694153583993162009-12-13T23:23:04.699-05:002009-12-13T23:23:04.699-05:00This is just speculation, but I think the independ...This is just speculation, but I think the independents, and even some Democrats and some of the anti-Palin Republicans, are coming to a "Could she realistically have been worse than Obama?" position. Again, I could be wrong, but I suspect that it's along the lines of "You know, if the price for a decent economy is that we don't fund overseas abortions and faith-based initiatives get some funding, that might just be a bargain I'm willing to strike."<br /><br />Of course, Pres. Obama still has three years to dig himself out, the media can attack him for two years and then say "But in the end, he's way better than that snowbilly," and Palin has to keep her popularity up for that time without some kind of Macaca Moment. It can definitely be done, but it's definitely a challenge.HokiePundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03649933279845677962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-63628635357916267162009-12-13T23:21:18.567-05:002009-12-13T23:21:18.567-05:00I thought it was interesting reading the comments ...I thought it was interesting reading the comments on a left-wing site after viewing her video. She got a lot of compliments, people saying they like her personally even if they don't like her politics. Not all went that way, but it definitely was different from the past.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02312545760929417202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-65737912660398018542009-12-13T23:16:57.364-05:002009-12-13T23:16:57.364-05:00I loved it when she came out. She had this stern s...I loved it when she came out. She had this stern smile on her face and was shaking her hand at Shatner, as if to say, "You naughty boy! Just you wait. I'll learn you manners"<br /><br />The whole point was that she wasn't taking her critics seriously. Shatner was mild compared to many, but she discounted them all.<br /><br />That is the right way to handle this -- just like she did in her address at the Gridiron Club. She lampooned the intellectuals and journalists there for 11 minutes and she had them roaring. <br /><br />http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/12/gridiron-sarah.html<br /><br />She'd make a good stand up comedienne. She knows how to deliver a punch line.<br /><br />If she refuses to take her critics seriously, it allows them to climb down off their ridiculous high horse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-69021773419290105582009-12-13T23:16:38.067-05:002009-12-13T23:16:38.067-05:00Sarah Palin certainly has had an amazing month.
O...Sarah Palin certainly has had an amazing month.<br /><br />One other thing happening this month may in the long run help her. We learned that the public image of Tiger Woods was a manufactured image, and it would not have lasted as long as it did if members of the press had not protected him. A similar situation occurred with John Kennedy, who was hailed as a young, athletic family man when he was in fact troubled with a serious back problem and was constantly whoring around. Ted Kennedy and John Edwards are two others whose manufactured images were protected by the press. Certainly there are many others. However, it is clear that Sarah Palin is not among them because she is hated by the press. The same cannot be said for Barack Obama. <br /><br />So there may be a silver lining to having the press hate you.Dessert Survivorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616064444288249273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-40041914409226279862009-12-13T23:04:05.132-05:002009-12-13T23:04:05.132-05:00Palin and Shatner- it was a match made in heaven!
...Palin and Shatner- it was a match made in heaven!<br />And using the "beat" background was beyond perfect!<br />For us "olden people"<br />Wish the Obamanots would get it.<br />Thanks for the post= GREATcoolpillow1111https://www.blogger.com/profile/17038792188643840919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-82390768617564069682009-12-13T22:55:10.237-05:002009-12-13T22:55:10.237-05:00Palin's performance was very loosey-goosey. Sh...Palin's performance was very loosey-goosey. She performed like a pro. That contrasts starkly with the stiffness and artificiality of most politicians on air. She said to the entertainment world: "Look at me, I can be as entertaining as a pro. Just let me loose and stand back. I might even be a better performer qua performer than most of the hosts who want/don't want me on their programs."Nooyawkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15239991952397397463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-4167212190859504422009-12-13T22:47:06.300-05:002009-12-13T22:47:06.300-05:00THis dovetails wellwith late night *finally* start...THis dovetails wellwith late night *finally* starting to take a few potshots at Obama.<br /><br />SNL, then Leno, Jon Stewart in daytime.<br />Leterman has been totally biased, and Conana's been wimpy on Obama jokes too, but this redeems him some.newscaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12902084479796166251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-17869406134652888162009-12-13T19:21:55.385-05:002009-12-13T19:21:55.385-05:00Palin, by contrast, established her popularity ind...<i>Palin, by contrast, established her popularity independent of, and despite, the entertainment media.</i><br /><br />Rush Limbaugh likes to say the media didn't make him and therefore the media can not break him. They have surely tried for more than 20 years with no success, so he may have something there. And Sarah Palin may get to prove the theory. <br /><br /><i>We have reached the point where the mainstream entertainment media needs Palin more than Palin needs the media.</i><br /><br />Yes! And I have loved watching the liberal heads explode as they beg the media to stop giving her a platform. But the media can't seem to stop themselves. Hee!Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13032071848257057402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-63959772553386346022009-12-13T18:02:52.072-05:002009-12-13T18:02:52.072-05:00Excellent comment.Excellent comment.John Glubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14236731849762518277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-13620049341972185132009-12-13T17:12:15.368-05:002009-12-13T17:12:15.368-05:00Heh. Heh. Heh.Heh. Heh. Heh.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.com