tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post6884477478036780119..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Another Tucson Shooting False Narrative Goes BadWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-11263732217727372472011-01-16T22:49:02.962-05:002011-01-16T22:49:02.962-05:00I just watched the CBS 60 Minutes piece focusing o...I just watched <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPrYZ9wwCv4" rel="nofollow">the <b>CBS 60 Minutes</b> piece</a> focusing on the lengthy examinations and studies of those involved in targeted violence, including a few actual assassins, that have been conducted by the Intelligence Division of the Secret Service, the organization with the responsibility of protecting the President and other high profile political figures. <br /><br />Incidentally, through initial interviews with his former acquaintances, the piece first reemphasized that Jared Loughner's sole connection to Giffords occurred well over three years ago, when he asked her his nutty question at a town hall meeting. She did not answer the question (who could!) but according to those acquaintances, that lead him to have complete disdain for her. Indeed, the police found the 3 year and 4 month old form letter her office had sent him way back then thanking him for attending the event. On it he had written, <em>"Die bitch."</em> He kept that letter all this time!<br /><br />The <b>CBS</b> piece which was done by Scott Pelly and his producer Bill Owens, was very informative. <br /><br />They outlined in specific detail, several commonalities that the Secret Service had noticed in the behavior of each of these individuals, ultimately leading up to their acts of violence. <br /><br />Two of the agents interviewed had closely examined and interviewed numerous attackers (including of high profile public figures) such as Sirhan Sirhan, Mark David Chapman, Artie Bremmer, which they obviously did in order to try and develop a profile, if possible, or at least a better predictive handle on what drives these killers, as well as what common or standout characteristics they exhibit. <br /><br />The report said there really is no profile, as such, but that these individuals do exhibit several common characteristics, many of which Loughner exhibited over time. <br /><br />But one of the conclusions that came out in the course of the discussion, seems to me to be very pertinent in the context of these repeated false accusations that have been made against Sarah Palin and others on the right.<br /><br />Specifically, one of those commonalities, according to one of the Secret service agents, Robert Fine, is that the motivation for such assassinations is almost never <em>“pure and simple”</em> political. When he was asked if politics was ever the motivation in any of the 83 cases they closely examined, here was his precise answer: <br /><br /><b><em>"I cannot think of a case,"</em> said Fine, <em>"where politics pure and simple was the motivation. Sometimes people used a political language. But people are more complicated than attacking someone over, quote, a political motive."</em></b><br /><br />That question and answer begins at about 6:50 on the clip.<br /><br />Clearly that only further undermines the already thoroughly discredited and baseless theory being insisted upon by commentators of the left.<br /><br />Also, Pelly further stated that afterward, every single one of the assassins or attackers, according to the secret service who interviewed them all extensively, experienced no satisfaction in what they had done (i.e., it didn't "solve" their problems) and they all ended up feeling <em>"profound regret about what they had done."</em><br /><br />Here is the <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7252928n" rel="nofollow"><em>CBS Overtime</em> video</a> which contains additional information.Trochilushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07661310034696479920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-43166426746689659452011-01-16T13:16:47.855-05:002011-01-16T13:16:47.855-05:00As a former LGF'er (quite banned for displayin...As a former LGF'er (quite banned for displaying the temerity of disagreeing with Johnson) I checked the link... found exactly what you mentioned, and then thought I'd go a step further. What did CJ have to say about the death threat issued by Fuller?<br /><br />Surprisingly (/sarc switch off) little. But 900 odd comments later, there's a great deal more information about Fuller... and that guy is a man with issues which, in many respects, seem to mirror Loughner's problem set.<br /><br />The discredited notion that Loughner's actions are the fault of anyone but Loughner seems to be the media Claymore mine where it's users forgot the axiom in raised letters on each mine:<br /><br />"THIS SIDE TOWARDS ENEMY"<br /><br />In this case, the lamestream media seem to have forgotten to read the instructions... and turned the mine around so when they popped the clicker, it went off in their faces.K.J. Hintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071279261669117974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-69037148565475416452011-01-16T12:37:25.700-05:002011-01-16T12:37:25.700-05:00Iowahawk:
“I’d like to see Eric Fuller’s phone re...Iowahawk:<br /><br />“I’d like to see Eric Fuller’s phone records. It’d be instructive to see how fast his calls from MSNBC dropped off.”LukeHandCoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14050153852654024997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-57687442378878478972011-01-16T12:28:50.870-05:002011-01-16T12:28:50.870-05:00All this focus on Tuscan makes me wonder what Obam...All this focus on Tuscan makes me wonder what Obama, the illusionist, has been up to "behind the curtain."Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11772310179223546476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-17524319926983654862011-01-16T12:19:10.166-05:002011-01-16T12:19:10.166-05:00One doesn't have to worship Palin to admit, sh...One doesn't have to worship Palin to admit, she has more courage than any 10 pols in DC and I mean men and men of the GOP.<br /><br />As Peter Brimelow said the other day, Palin is making the right enemies (meaning, the MSM and the party establishments inside the Beltway).<br /><br />I admire her for this at least.Nessushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00863195248095443941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-25644165308551130042011-01-16T12:03:54.277-05:002011-01-16T12:03:54.277-05:00Yes, I know saying that the alphabet broadcast med...Yes, I know saying that the alphabet broadcast media is liberally biased is crazy ... lefties have told me that for years ... but it's still amazing to me how all their mistakes and omissions always seem to benefit the left:<br /><br /><br />"ABC World News Reports Threat at its Tucson Town Hall, Omits it Was Made to a Tea Partier."<br /><br /><br />Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01/15/abc-world-news-reports-threat-its-tucson-town-hall-omits-it-was-made-#ixzz1BDc4HVtg<br /><br /><br />http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01/15/abc-world-news-reports-threat-its-tucson-town-hall-omits-it-was-made-LukeHandCoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14050153852654024997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-25979881561331154822011-01-16T12:01:04.580-05:002011-01-16T12:01:04.580-05:00The reality of the left is not understood by most ...The reality of the left is not understood by most of us humans.....If we could just ship their bodies and souls to the same planet their brains are on, all would be well.Randy-ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374141045770199773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-26631070328204531382011-01-16T10:44:32.148-05:002011-01-16T10:44:32.148-05:00"This new Fuller narrative also had a warning..."This new Fuller narrative also had a warning attached to it, that "wingnuts" would attack Fuller for expressing his views:", etc. <br /><br />Kind of puts your last post in perspective, re: "projection".alan markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04376679777650939602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-78726151810405861122011-01-16T10:16:46.589-05:002011-01-16T10:16:46.589-05:00The more they yell about Right Wing violence, the ...The more they yell about Right Wing violence, the more I reply, "Justice for Ken Gladney!"<br /><br />It's like they're not even self-aware.Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.com