tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post6752399914552341188..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Obama Releases "Long Form" Birth Certificate?William A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-41132729662285077962011-04-28T08:05:06.126-04:002011-04-28T08:05:06.126-04:00UKLLee? For real? That's who attended his bi...UKLLee? For real? That's who attended his birth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-79297008335710696732011-04-27T23:47:59.556-04:002011-04-27T23:47:59.556-04:00Put the Birth document released by the White house...Put the Birth document released by the White house today (the pdf released directly from the White House)into Adobe Illustrator... 22 edits were made. A clean scan should have zero !!!!! ..What a bunch of amateurs. Never hold up in Court as unedited...And where is the official seal???<br /><br /> And don't forget about Jus sanguinis and Natural Born Citizenship, incarcerated Dr. Terry Lakin and the curious CT. social security number. <br /><br />Curious to how Trump will eventually respond to this inept forgery...DrJim77https://www.blogger.com/profile/01778226394448048421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-69789420443192789912011-04-27T23:04:47.745-04:002011-04-27T23:04:47.745-04:00If by Rickrolled, you mean he put out a fraudulent...If by Rickrolled, you mean he put out a fraudulent birth certificate as a joke of some kind, then maybe.<br />http://theothermccain.com/2011/04/27/dont-touch-my-birth-certificate-junk/<br />See the comments Tialoc. He is a fraud, and this release took about 8 hours for a HUGE GLARING problem with it to crop up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-81692444157967846032011-04-27T21:53:52.517-04:002011-04-27T21:53:52.517-04:00"The document goes a long way, if not complet..."The document goes a long way, if not completely, towards quieting the issue. But the ease with which Obama was able to get the document leads one to wonder why he resisted so long."<br /><br />Uh when your opponents insist on acting like idiots why would you stop them? You give them lots of time to get as worked up as possible, and hence as ridiculous as possible, and then you spring the evidence on them that drives home the point that these people are not serious and should not be taken seriously. <br /><br />And the best part? Because the opponents in this case are conspiracy theorists they make up all new elaborate stories for why the proof isn't really proof which only furthers the idea that they are divorced from reality.<br /><br />Obama just seriously rickrolled the birthers. Oh and he helped give trump a boost at the same time. All in all a very god day for Obama.Tlalochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16357673798336376049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-58299600378675851272011-04-27T21:50:34.545-04:002011-04-27T21:50:34.545-04:00I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani...I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital<br /><br />http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx<br />(Better screenshot this before it's scrubbed)<br /><br />and according to the information there quote: "In 1908, Albert and Emma Kauikeolani Wilcox donated $50,000 to start a children's hospital. The community,concerned that two of every seven infants in Hawai‘i did not live to see their first birthday, rallied to match the Wilcox's gift. A year later, Kauikeolani Children's Hospital opened.The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children. ",<br /><br />The name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978? What a fraud.<br />THANKS STEVEJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14720191692544171724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-65299551124441387962011-04-27T21:32:42.348-04:002011-04-27T21:32:42.348-04:00Inconsistencies with the Nordyke CLB.
1. Box 7c n...Inconsistencies with the Nordyke CLB.<br /><br />1. Box 7c naming convention is not the same. One says Honolulu, Hawaii, the other says Honolulu, Oahu.<br />2. The actual certificate number on the Nordyke form is "61 10637", the twins were born on the 5th (accepted by the registrar on the 11th. Obama certificate number is "61 10641" and he was born on the 4th (accepted by the registrar on the 8th).<br />3. Box 5a - Month is abbreviated in the Nordyke certificateUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13934000264681585942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-84702583517674006022011-04-27T19:53:15.911-04:002011-04-27T19:53:15.911-04:00Burke, does one go mad after jumping the shark or ...Burke, does one go mad after jumping the shark or jump the shark after going mad?<br /><br />Here's what mad is:<br /><br />Mad is Obama refusing to release all of his birth certification, even in court challenges, one of which resulted in a US military officer being incarcerated.<br /><br />Mad is how the American public feels over the fact such a cut and dry issue could drag on so long b/c we have a President who'd rather play cat-and-mouse games instead of respecting America's questions, <b>unlike his opposing candidate who faced a similar challenge.</b>sort of runic rhymehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02110191531105638013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-28781798951817437382011-04-27T19:40:36.183-04:002011-04-27T19:40:36.183-04:00The Constitution requires a natural born citizen, ...The Constitution requires a natural born citizen, Art 2 Sect 1. And this 'whatever' says clearly his father was a Kenyan.<br /><br />What gives? The Constitution was all about stopping a person with dual allegiance from becoming president.10ksnookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13432559078921206197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-24398610131166871372011-04-27T19:22:57.245-04:002011-04-27T19:22:57.245-04:00Good lord, conspiracists can never let go of their...Good lord, conspiracists can never let go of their cherished fantasies. In these comment, we have people who think there is some sort of mysterious meaning to the phrase, "natural born citizen," that has yet to be revealed even though the four possible sources of a definition -- the text, federal law enacted by Congress, Supreme Court decisions, and the common law all agree that it includes every person born within the US of whatever parents and lots of other people too.<br /><br />We have people who cling to the ludicrous belief that because Britain offered British citizenship to Kenyans and their offspring, Obama must be a British subject.<br /><br />We have people who rest their case absurdly on the choice of word order by the State of Hawaii -- Certificate of Live Birth somehow cannot mean Birth Certificate.<br /><br />We have people already pouring over the minutia of the document and spinning theories to the effect that it is still a fraud.<br /><br />And there are people still holding out for an even longer long form document.<br /><br />Finally, like The Donald, we have people listing all the other materials Obama should release promptly, like his college grades.<br /><br />Do these people not have any clue that they have jumped the shark and gone mad?J. E. Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08682657792334163396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-42278631795701191452011-04-27T19:09:00.069-04:002011-04-27T19:09:00.069-04:00People who know graphic software better will have ...People who know graphic software better will have to decide, but is it a fake:<br /><br />http://market-ticker.org/post=185094<br /><br />and<br /><br />http://market-ticker.org/post=185094Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03097231728936586402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-91826485666507351652011-04-27T15:18:08.020-04:002011-04-27T15:18:08.020-04:00@Placeholder
The core issue is that Obama is
unt...@Placeholder<br /><br />The core issue is that Obama is <br />untrustworthy<br />evasive <br />arrogant<br /><br />Clearly, that belief is gaining support, and the WH's own internal poll #'s must validate that erosion of belief in Obama's "likeability" or there would be no need for the PR stunt today.<br /><br />A wise commentor on Hotair astutely observed,<br /><br />"And going on TV to say this is a non-issue is kinda the opposite of how you treat non-issues.<br /><br /> Ampersand on April 27, 2011 at 12:58 PM" <br /><br />Trump is adroitly turning this into an issue of Obama's character and integrity.Stop shouting...https://www.blogger.com/profile/18364109205720825690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-36688139240081480442011-04-27T13:59:07.479-04:002011-04-27T13:59:07.479-04:00Please, oh please, keep it up, nutcases!Please, oh please, keep it up, nutcases!Placeholderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02967627809480888708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-33339104427965310542011-04-27T13:42:21.244-04:002011-04-27T13:42:21.244-04:00"If he is forced to reveal his real history t..."If he is forced to reveal his real history the spell will be broken for his followers - but perhaps more importantly for him."<br /><br />Highlander, you "get" it.<br />The entire 2008 campaign was predicated on a carefully constructed myth and an appeal to emotion over reason. Obama himself self-identified as a "blank slate" for people to write their own projections/hopes on.<br /><br />That's going to be very hard to duplicate in 2012.Stop shouting...https://www.blogger.com/profile/18364109205720825690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-26779170954840516662011-04-27T13:27:23.052-04:002011-04-27T13:27:23.052-04:00Holding
"A child born in the United States, o...<b>Holding<br />"A child born in the United States, of parent[s] of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil[e] and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States."</b><br /><br />That describes a "Native" born citizen. But not a "Natural" born citizen. I think this is pertinent and needs to be addressed by Congress. We need to define "natural born citizen" as I, for one, do not want an enemy of my country elected President again. Obama's obvious hatred of this country and of the British proves we need an American as President.JoAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00551343945828962133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-66292102398507294292011-04-27T13:17:41.190-04:002011-04-27T13:17:41.190-04:00Wherever Obama was born, let us hope he doesn'...Wherever Obama was born, let us hope he doesn't get re-elected Stateside.<br /><br />I never had much interest in the birther issue other than to believe something was amiss on account of O's team having his vital docs sealed from public scrutiny. That said, no one is coming up with a good conspiracy theory here or reprising Buckhead. Let me try:<br /><br />There's a strong similarity between the mother's and physician's handwriting. The signatures appear to have a different style at first glance but, after accounting for the shortened height of "hers" in a squatter box, the underlying strokes and angles look as if they come from the same hand, tho' trying to disguise the fact-- hers looks more drawn than scrawled. The handwritten dates are even more alike.<br /><br />Do we have his mother's passport from 1961 and know exactly when she was in Kenya? Perhaps she went into early labor while visiting her husband's African family, or the airlines wouldn't let her take a return flight back to the States since she was so very pregnant. In either event, she could have flown into HI a couple of days after giving birth and asked for a favor at the hospital, saying, maybe, she couldn't get to the hospital in time but that her baby was born at home in Honolulu. In the unprobable event this Certificate is inauthentic, it could be that something on the original was clearly irregular. <br /><br />Last, she or her family placed a birth announcement in the local paper to safeguard the option of having the baby be considered an American citizen, or the hospital automatically sent out these announcements based on Certificates they file.<br /><br />Let's make this even better. People in power with snoopy corporate-state intel resources know Obama's secret, okay, secret<b>s</b>, and are using their knowledge as leverage to get what they want. Rahm, Daley, Goldman, Soros, Ayers, Assad, Michelle, the Pentagon, CIA, China, Admadinejad, Columbia University, BP, and the Sand Dune lizard must all know. Hillary does, too, but couldn't use the info directly because there was just too much on the Clintons that key Dems held onto for insurance or profit.<br /><br />Surely someone could do better than this and write an alien abduction and federal cover-up scenario. Might explain his ears, though. Hmmmm.sort of runic rhymehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02110191531105638013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-28387740922804679412011-04-27T13:16:42.229-04:002011-04-27T13:16:42.229-04:00Sort form: will the folks that have attacked Stop ...Sort form: will the folks that have attacked Stop Shouting and all like her to this extent <i>please aim fire at the other side</i>? <br /> She's as sick of it as I am.Foxfierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10161683096247890834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-12811281318892318592011-04-27T13:14:55.960-04:002011-04-27T13:14:55.960-04:00You have a problem with people asking a simple que...<i>You have a problem with people asking a simple question like, "Why all the secrets?". a carefully constructed "brand".</i><br /><br />Exactly the opposite-- I'm sick of being <i>attacked</i> by the "smart" guys on my side for asking questions like "so... why is he spending cash to avoid a reasonable request?"<br /><br />The most vicious attacks I've seen have been by the guys claiming it's all a brilliant ploy on Obama's part, when <i>this would have happened years ago if they'd have quit calling anyone who questions ANYTHING about Obama a 'birther'.</i><br /><br />The guy's entire tactics, as you point out, are directly from grade school. Typical college activist.<br /><br />If folks let him frame the situation, they'll lose. If they accept "proof" that disproves something that wasn't even said, they'll lose it for our side.<br /><br />For love of Pete, I never questioned that he was born in the US, but the massive <i>stupidity</i> that passed as "arguments" to "prove" that the question was just too far out there... not kosher. If the question is so far out there, good arguments against it should be thick on the ground and thus bad arguments are inexcusable.Foxfierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10161683096247890834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-43543820686461924872011-04-27T13:09:21.085-04:002011-04-27T13:09:21.085-04:00Stop shouting:
The Nordyke copy is what one receiv...Stop shouting:<br /><i>The Nordyke copy is what one receives when one obtains a copy of a document from a microfiche.</i><br /><br />No, it's what photocopies looked like in the 1960s. Technology has moved on.<br /><br /><i>Obama's isn't. It looks like someone took the form of the Nordyke form and transposed it on the green background.</i><br /><br />No, it looks like someone took the original document and printed a copy onto official stock, and then certified the copy. Which is exactly what happened.<br /><br /><i>Why not just release the "certified copy" as obtained from HI? </i><br /><br />This <i>is</i> the certified copy, as obtained from Hawaii. Can't you see the certification?Milhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350874508580081286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-40344397049323951042011-04-27T13:04:41.125-04:002011-04-27T13:04:41.125-04:00Why is Stanley and Barack's wedding certificat...Why is Stanley and Barack's wedding certificate relevant? We know their marriage was invalid anyway, because he already had a wife. And what difference would it make if he never pretended to marry her after all? It's not as if the President was there to witness it for himself; he had to go on what he was told.<br /><br />The real question is why it took so damn long for him to release this, and whether those who maintained for 2.5 years that he <i>had</i> released it are going to show even a smidgen of humility. And the answer is no, they're not.Milhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350874508580081286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-84985459604909858232011-04-27T13:02:18.248-04:002011-04-27T13:02:18.248-04:00@ John O
"Jeez, I'm getting tired of thi...@ John O<br /><br />"Jeez, I'm getting tired of this."<br /><br />You are not alone in that sentiment.<br /><br />But I must ask .... why is your ire not directed at Obama and his "handlers", when, if the publicity stunt of today is to be believed, this entire drama could have ended before the Nov 2008 elections?<br /><br />Or do you fall into the camp of believers that somehow feel that Obama, being so special and all, is "above" being questioned, or having his past examined by the American people? After all, dictators do not allow their "subjects" to challenge or question them. Most politicans in representative democracies are fully aware that they will be called upon to open up their life history for inspection and criticism...which is why many people choose NOT to enter the ring.<br /><br />Obama clearly felt this standard didn't apply to him.<br />And got a free pass on it...for years.Stop shouting...https://www.blogger.com/profile/18364109205720825690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-67802110043850552262011-04-27T12:58:45.484-04:002011-04-27T12:58:45.484-04:00I too think that Obama's release of this docum...I too think that Obama's release of this document now was due to a determination that, given Donald Trump's success in bringing it to mainstream conciousness, it was no longer a winning strategy for labeling his opponents as conspiracy theorists and nut cases. It had, quite simply, reached the level of diminishing returns.<br /><br />But further, I believe that keeping it under wraps this long is illustrative of Obama's secretive nature - which is, in turn, both organic and calculating. He has created a fictional personal narrative for both the nation and himself, that cannot long survive factual documentation such as birth certificates and school records. If he is forced to reveal his real history the spell will be broken for his followers - but perhaps more importantly for him.Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08004607966032301858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-20573759242347199262011-04-27T12:54:21.017-04:002011-04-27T12:54:21.017-04:00@Foxfier:
" Maybe now we can get the "fr...@Foxfier:<br />" Maybe now we can get the "friendly fire" on our own side under control? "<br /><br />You have a problem with people asking a simple question like, "Why all the secrets?". I see nothing wrong with people wanting to decide for themselves "who" this guy is, rather than relying on our "betters" to sell us a carefully constructed "brand".<br /><br />Hotair states,<br />"...proceeds to scold everyone for the monumental waste of time and distraction this has always represented:"<br /><br />Of course. Because that is what Teh Won does best. Scold. Mock. Belittle.<br /><br />And this is the guy corporate media tells us is "likeable" ??<br /><br />The only reason it was a "monumental waste of time" was Obama's arrogance. Obama should be apologizing to the American people, not SCOLDING them.<br /><br />As a pre-emptive measure on the part of the Obama Administration, I don't think this will stop people from rightly continuing to press for more disclosure about his past and his associates. Apparently, many people in America now want to decide for themselves, rather than rely on the "media" to do the "vetting" for them.<br /><br />I fail to see how this is a "win" for Obama, or how it diminishes justified criticism of him and his actions/choices.Stop shouting...https://www.blogger.com/profile/18364109205720825690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-77491188411601402942011-04-27T12:31:53.130-04:002011-04-27T12:31:53.130-04:00Was any one else born in Hawaii in August of 1961?...Was any one else born in Hawaii in August of 1961? Perhaps we could take a look at their birth certificate. So now Donald wants a look see at the college records. This is why transparency and honesty are good things. Had Obama been honest up front... never mind. <br /><br />This answer just generates more questions. That wasn't so hard, now let us see school and college records, and passport applications, and while you're up, get us some more answers. Any body see Stanley and Barack's wedding certificate?Milwaukeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14830345164697669429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-12603751020816370972011-04-27T12:30:26.696-04:002011-04-27T12:30:26.696-04:00As I typed at a few blogs, including mine:
I coul...As I typed at a few blogs, including mine:<br /><br /><i>I could care less, if this guy was born on the planet Mars. He is not fit for the office, he needs to be retired.</i><br /><br />Uncanny. wv..mythfire<br /><br />OK, someone has a lisp, or is damn prescient..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-22154017205529257952011-04-27T12:11:18.424-04:002011-04-27T12:11:18.424-04:00Linked: 'Donald Trump Claims Credit for Releas...Linked: <a href="http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/donald-trump-claims-credit-for-release.html" rel="nofollow">'Donald Trump Claims Credit for Release of President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate'</a>.AmPowerBloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18236333181889271910noreply@blogger.com