tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post518628261730792622..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Operation Demoralize Is WorkingWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-81195763907951848922011-01-20T16:12:36.003-05:002011-01-20T16:12:36.003-05:00No one knows anything about 2012 yet. At this tim...No one knows anything about 2012 yet. At this time in the cycle leading up to the 2008 election Giuliani and Clinton were the polling leaders from the two parties. McCain and Obama were well back. <br /><br />For the sake of Sarah Palin and her family I hope she does not run. For our nation's sake I want her to run and win. Can she win? Who knows? There are 300 million people in this country and every four years we only get to pick one out of two choices so chances aren't very good for any of us to be elected to that office.<br /><br />What I don't like is for the media (or Powerline) to determine who the nominees will be for us. Crap like deciding that conservatives are unelectable is what got us McCain as the nominee in 2008. How'd that work out again? The primary process is broken, but I'd still prefer that system to letting the liberal media pick our candidate.LargeBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231452147187641675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-59718545359425442782011-01-20T12:18:15.375-05:002011-01-20T12:18:15.375-05:00To those who whine about not being able to have a ...To those who whine about not being able to have a "reasonable" debate to say "I like Palin but I want to win elections and she can't win," your "let's be rational" argument falls flat when you quote fellow practicioners of that line - who have ulterior motives of self-interest for saying Palin is unelectable.<br /><br />Powerline is in favor of Pawlenty or Daniels, e.g., safe, Party guys.<br /><br />Dick Morris was a Clinton guy. He got midterms very wrong. He is hot and cold with Palin. The bottom line with him is she hasn't hired him to run her campaign - so he's fishing around to get hired by other potential candidates. Shilling that she's unelectable is bound to get him in with them.hrhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14596988242528734544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-26203402610466164622011-01-20T08:53:30.507-05:002011-01-20T08:53:30.507-05:00@htales - the question and answer in the video you...@htales - the question and answer in the video you link was very specific to capping coal emissions through the use of clean coal technology, and was not a general cap-and-trade statement. In fact, when Biden, in answering the same question posed to Palin, tried to stray, Gwen Ifil repeatedly said to him "clean coal" until he answered the question directly. That was an issue in the debate because Biden had once said there was "no such thing as clean coal." So your statement about Palin's position on cap-and-trade is not supported by your link.William A. Jacobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-265551808444667332011-01-20T08:07:04.287-05:002011-01-20T08:07:04.287-05:00I have a crystal ball on desk, just like the Power...I have a crystal ball on desk, just like the Powerline guys. Unlike theirs, mine doesn’t work. It seems a lot of he really, really … REALLY … smart people are in the same boat. Because they all wrote Palin off after she resigned as governor of Alaska. That was supposed to end her political career. She’s dead. No one has heard of her since … oh wait!<br /><br />I asked this question at The Virginian, and am getting some response. I have not heard from Powerline yet. <br /><br />Palin not "Presidential material?"<br />http://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/2011/01/palin-not-presidential-material.htmlMoneyrunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12940253500799383224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-74549103735205656512011-01-20T04:48:54.931-05:002011-01-20T04:48:54.931-05:00Hinderaker has a motive for writing off Palin.
...Hinderaker has a motive for writing off Palin. <br /><br />Pawlenty!lonetownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10969510756729828503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-58727478041562228672011-01-20T04:41:29.428-05:002011-01-20T04:41:29.428-05:00I must add one more thing. BUCK UP people. This is...I must add one more thing. BUCK UP people. This isn't the time to be weak and faint. <br /><br />It's just the future of the country. <br /><br />Don't let the media frame our choices. <br /><br />Sarah Palin all the way, baby!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663091343027169659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-79278834124888884712011-01-20T04:00:38.668-05:002011-01-20T04:00:38.668-05:00Sarah Palin is on record supporting Cap and Trade....Sarah Palin is on record supporting Cap and Trade. Watch at 5:07:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGI2HFL1_bA&feature=related<br /><br />She supported Carly Fiorina over Chuck De Vore in the California primary. She supported Tarp. She is a RINO. <br /><br />We are going to have to accept that there is no dealing with the liberals; they will continue to spew out ugly hateful rhetoric. That does not mean, however, that you suspend all critical analysis just because a Republican is attacked. Is Sarah Palin better than any Democrat? Yes. But that kind of thinking, settling for being better than Democrats, is why we are in trouble. This Country's problems go back quite a few years. It was Herbert Hoover who raised taxes in 1932. It was Eisenhower who refused to roll back any of the New Deal or Fair Deal. It was Richard Nixon who gave us the EPA; Bush 41 who said "Read My Lips" and Bush 43 who gave us TARP. By comparing Republicans only to Democrats, rather than grading them on their dedication to restore Constitutional Government, we the Conservative voter are the main culprits in why the current regime is in place. Obama did not happen overnight we had to build up to it. <br /><br />Now if Sarah Palin addresses why she did the things mentioned above; says she was wrong and lays out a clear vision with specific policies for limited Government, such as shutting down the Department of Education, The Fair Tax etc. then Conservatives should consider voting for her. If not, then we become a "Cult of Personality" crowd, as emotional and foolish as our opponents.<br /><br />One thing we need is a solid interview of her in which she clearly addresses policy issues instead of the media trying to make her look foolish (Gibson and Couric) or gushing (Hannity). <br /><br />www.hollywoodstories.comhtaleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14528818870024001120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-68699634449319289102011-01-20T02:26:28.076-05:002011-01-20T02:26:28.076-05:00I love Sarah Palin. I can't wait to vote for h...I love Sarah Palin. I can't wait to vote for her for President of the United States.<br /><br />I am smart enough to think for myself. I would never believe the lame stream media. Good grief. What thinking person would?<br /><br />"Sarah Palin...They know she's inevitable. They knew it the first time they saw her. It's why they go insane every time they think of her."<br /><br />I believe that. <br /><br />Sarah Palin is fabulous. It's the big government elitists, from both parties that are scared to death of this good women. She is on the side of the people.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663091343027169659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-22133152502540759382011-01-20T01:33:11.968-05:002011-01-20T01:33:11.968-05:00@ pasadenaphil
"It would be a shame if the D...@ pasadenaphil<br /><br />"It would be a shame if the Dems beat the right in fielding a viable 3rd party candidate who wins. Trump might just be that guy."<br /><br />OK, point taken. Or as I think you would see it, Dems would field a viable *2nd* party candidate. I see it that way. However, if they do, it could be a farther left candidate than even blood poison, if that were possible, or at least one with a more Pacific Coast set of loyalties/connections.<br /><br />LCN is the imponderable there, which way they end up calling it.<br /><br />Your earlier point that a new party with a new candidate would be a *2nd* party I see as spot on because R and D currently are "ruling class" together, essentially one and the same party (cf. touchy-feely seating for State of the Union Message).<br /><br />Let's see how the various Tea Party organizations around the country work this one out. My sense is they're not ready to make a second party yet (second to the D-R Party), but the situation is fluid, dynamic and fraught with imponderables awaiting clarity via developments.<br /><br />Nor is my sense of the situation thorough or infallible. I take your basic thesis and grasp the reason for it.David R. Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416692639208634879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-82277110870508779762011-01-20T00:23:31.216-05:002011-01-20T00:23:31.216-05:00And who do I think is probably the most outstandin...And who do I think is probably the most outstanding Supreme in the last 100 years (at least)? Clarence Thomas.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-27179714171507710112011-01-20T00:03:40.997-05:002011-01-20T00:03:40.997-05:00Jeff,
If he couldn't understand that the righ...Jeff,<br /><br />If he couldn't understand that the rights of government were limited and the rights of citizens were not then he deserved what he got. <br /><br />I'm sorry. Bork was a great Conservative. I'm no Conservative. I'm a libertarian Republican. BTW Bork liked the drug laws too. I just had a very Conservative lawyer (whose name you would certainly recognize) who loves the drug war (mostly) tell me that it is probably unconstitutional (Federally). There are a LOT of things Conservatives like for which there is NO Constitutional (Federal) authority. That is what the IXth and Xth are all about. <br /><br />Conservative (mostly) are just as squishy about the Constitution as liberals when it comes to their pet projects. Pity. <br /><br />Maybe the TEA Parties will correct some of that. Maybe not. Either way it will not change my views.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-29998121443412702072011-01-20T00:01:20.332-05:002011-01-20T00:01:20.332-05:00Any candidate the media approves of should be reje...Any candidate the media approves of should be rejected for that reason alone, since it is obvious they are considered squishy.SDNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03294241092298713048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-8456570340475567332011-01-19T22:56:34.362-05:002011-01-19T22:56:34.362-05:00@ Lee Bollow.....
I just linked this article to my...@ Lee Bollow.....<br />I just linked this article to my FB page, must have been a glitch, although I would not be suprised if some crafty web-mayhem types haven't been inserting malicious scripts into comments here to cause the whole link to be flagged as spam. This is a nasty crowd we are dealing with(trolls, not the fans of LI)and they know how to do some hacking, much like the phone phreaks of the 1960s.Scooter Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02895247292767105862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-35776011308091820262011-01-19T22:53:39.775-05:002011-01-19T22:53:39.775-05:00In online games such as Final Fantasy, there's...In online games such as Final Fantasy, there's the concept of a "tank" - a player who has tremendous ability to absorb damage and regenerate quickly. A team uses a tank to keep the monster's attention while other players do the real damage needed to take the monster down. <br /><br />For today's right fighting the politco-media left monster, Sarah Palin is the best tank they've got. As long as she's playing fair, she needs help and encouragement. Shunning her is short sighted and counter-productive. <br /><br />I don't think she'll ever be president either, but I love what she does to the left. Besides, that horse might sing someday; after one look at his user-car-salesman demeanor, I never thought Bill Clinton would be elected either.Billy Hollishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818258219153367795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-4332389152775801102011-01-19T22:42:27.703-05:002011-01-19T22:42:27.703-05:00Also, it was the 9th amendment he called an ink bl...Also, it was the 9th amendment he called an ink blot. Good job.<br /><br />"Robert Bork, often considered an originalist, has likened the Ninth Amendment to an inkblot. Bork argued in The Tempting of America that, while the amendment clearly had some meaning, its meaning is indeterminate; because the language is opaque, its meaning is as irretrievable as it would be had the words been covered by an inkblot. According to Bork, if another provision of the Constitution were covered by an actual inkblot, judges should not be permitted to make up what might be under the inkblot lest any judges twist the meaning to their own ends "<br /><br />So clearly he deserved the slander.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892213227811281098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-79643846007854008382011-01-19T22:42:23.994-05:002011-01-19T22:42:23.994-05:00You know, I'm not big on Powerline myself, but...You know, I'm not big on Powerline myself, but I'm sorry... Some of the responses here illustrate exactly why it's so hard to have a rational debate anymore about virtually anything.<br /><br />Hinderaker wrote this about Sarah Palin:<br /><br /><i>... I'm a fan. I think she did an excellent job as a vice-presidential candidate in 2008 and has been an effective spokeswoman for conservative causes in the years since. </i><br /><br />For that, Hinderaker gets labeled here as "pathetic," "white toga," "elite wimp," "RINO." Despite proclaiming his appreciation for Sarah Palin, he's criticized for not being a real conservative. <br /><br />I'm just curious: If Hinderaker's effort doesn't do the trick -- if someone's own words don't get the benefit of a face-value reading -- then how would you propose such an argument be made? If someone really <i>does</i> like Sarah Palin, but doesn't think she can win an election, is there any way this can be expressed to meet your approval? <br /><br />In precisely what form should it be stated to keep you from twisting the speaker's motivations and intent? Because I really don't know how much clearer it can get: <br /><br />-- I like Sarah Palin.<br />-- I like Republicans to win elections.<br />-- My assessment of the evidence leads me to think Sarah Palin could not win this election.<br />-- Thus I hope she does not run.<br /><br />If this formulation is not sufficient for expressing such a thought, then what is?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04792091461861658548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-61543024056799135852011-01-19T22:39:32.972-05:002011-01-19T22:39:32.972-05:00"Robert Bork's America is a land in which..."Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the Government, and the doors of the Federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is—and is often the only—protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy.."<br /><br />Right. He deserved that.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892213227811281098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-34522843818480684922011-01-19T22:33:01.597-05:002011-01-19T22:33:01.597-05:00I don't think Hinderacker was trying to demora...I don't think Hinderacker was trying to demoralize anyone, I think he was just giving his honest opinion.<br /><br />I like Palin, but I don't think she can win. That does not mean I am demoralized. <br /><br />For instance, I thought Palin was badly treated by the media and I thought her video following the Tucson killings was good...but apparently not everyone felt that way. For instance, I heard Dick Morris talking about this and he said she should not have complained about how she was treated when people were dead and wounded. I honestly had not thought about it that way. But I think that is how a lot of people saw her. So to the right, she is defending herself....to a lot of other people she is just complaining and feeling sorry for herself. I don't know how she can get around that sentiment. I really don't.Terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226693134160057218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-61599995083173388402011-01-19T22:24:31.702-05:002011-01-19T22:24:31.702-05:00Bork deserved Borking. He called the 10th Amendmen...Bork deserved Borking. He called the 10th Amendment an "ink blot".M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-23827113652708363162011-01-19T22:13:13.971-05:002011-01-19T22:13:13.971-05:00I tried to post Operation Demoralize on my fb wall...I tried to post Operation Demoralize on my fb wall and received this alert:<br /><br /> "This message contains blocked content that has previously been flagged as abusive or spammy. Let us know if you think this is an error."<br /><br />I hope this was an error!Lee Bollowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307385199892150777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-54617972934237350292011-01-19T22:13:00.781-05:002011-01-19T22:13:00.781-05:00Hindraker is well named for such a mealy-mouthed q...Hindraker is well named for such a mealy-mouthed quisling.vanderleunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10296245324443413545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-36351764562153025822011-01-19T22:08:58.305-05:002011-01-19T22:08:58.305-05:00You assume that Conservative voters pay attention ...You assume that Conservative voters pay attention to Hinderaker.<br /><br />Don't assume.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-44374020264681788852011-01-19T22:08:55.796-05:002011-01-19T22:08:55.796-05:00Professor, I tried to post this on my fb wall and ...Professor, I tried to post this on my fb wall and fb would not let me, alerting me with this message: <br />"This message contains blocked content that has previously been flagged as abusive or spammy. Let us know if you think this is an error".<br />I hope that this was only an error.Lee Bollowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307385199892150777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-88366552118666426162011-01-19T21:45:50.323-05:002011-01-19T21:45:50.323-05:00I'd like to echo the comments of others. I res...I'd like to echo the comments of others. I respect the Powerline guys for many things, but their comments about Ms Palin have been at best back-handed compliments and at worst, mean-spirited (Dan Riehl has documented many, most, perhaps all of these comments).<br /><br />Prof Jacobson is correct and before Operation Demoralize even started, some on the right were sniping at those who are on the same side as they. Kind of makes you wonder...spunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18044701113416882804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-25881709723542565862011-01-19T20:43:11.198-05:002011-01-19T20:43:11.198-05:00@David R. Graham re:
"We need a second part...@David R. Graham re: <br /><br />"We need a second party."<br /><br />Likely but today not certain.<br /><br />David, it's NEVER time. That's how we end up with RINOs in control. Now IS the time. It's not the right time for Trump to be running either... if you are an establishment Democrat. Why does that argument always have so much traction on the right? The left ignores it every time. <br /><br />It would be a shame if the Dems beat the right in fielding a viable 3rd party candidate who wins. Trump might just be that guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com