tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post2487002979390213744..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Glenn Greenwald Plays VictimWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-13609056795614914892010-11-22T11:13:36.035-05:002010-11-22T11:13:36.035-05:00I can't help but notice that you never make an...I can't help but notice that you never make any substantive critiques of Greenwald. Its always his "tone" or "the historical relevance of the dual-loyalty charge," etc. etc. I mean, you never even tried to explain why his attack on Cantor was unwarranted. You just skipped to the optics.<br /><br />You pretend to be a lawyer all day - so don't you notice how weak that makes you look?la Ranahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00149324736867471141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-1505175882477721432010-11-20T22:04:09.525-05:002010-11-20T22:04:09.525-05:00I think your column is heading a little off track ...I think your column is heading a little off track in trying to reason with Greenwald. The kind of disproportionate animus he has is clearly far more personal than political. In fact, I doubt politics or philosophy enters much into it at all.<br /><br />It would be interesting to know more about his family background. Besides saying he's from NYC, there's nothing about it that I've ever seen. He's such a resentful, bitter person, obviously in constant terror of his sense of inferiority. Every family has one it seems; certainly every Jewish family.Jeff Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15583164506200319074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-39124191552869707992010-11-20T20:22:13.810-05:002010-11-20T20:22:13.810-05:00I am less troubled by Greenwald's comments tha...I am less troubled by Greenwald's comments than I am by how little Cantor's assurances to Netanayhu bother you, sir.vzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10932564603160392752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-49996567203449301082010-11-20T20:03:36.554-05:002010-11-20T20:03:36.554-05:00For the record, Brad Dayspring, the press secretar...For the record, Brad Dayspring, the press secretary for Eric Cantor wrote a piece in Politico on Cantor's comments:<br /><br />False accusations, echo chambers<br />http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=53149A6B-CAD3-A124-F0F5FA1EB6792CD1<br /><br />Don't hold your breath for retractions from Ron Kampeas, Andrew Sullivan, Charles Johnson, and Greenwald.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341781897229406566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-24809869537991805572010-11-20T19:36:28.122-05:002010-11-20T19:36:28.122-05:00@Graham, if anyone should know the uses of hypocri...@Graham, if anyone should know the uses of hypocrisy, Greenwald should.JorgXMcKiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509568525555189690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-25848375747270120772010-11-20T19:17:40.168-05:002010-11-20T19:17:40.168-05:00@Robin - yes, Rick is on the case.@Robin - yes, Rick is on the case.William A. Jacobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-88946161126851725012010-11-20T18:29:54.784-05:002010-11-20T18:29:54.784-05:00I'm sure Rick Ellensburg would agree.I'm sure Rick Ellensburg would agree.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05699652902909032781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-31512712899983806892010-11-20T15:22:52.000-05:002010-11-20T15:22:52.000-05:00I seriously doubted that 20% figure until pasadena...I seriously doubted that 20% figure until pasadenaphil now made it indisputable in my mind.LukeHandCoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14050153852654024997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-46921728147338566782010-11-20T14:09:56.781-05:002010-11-20T14:09:56.781-05:00Glenn Greenwald must be one of the 20% of American...Glenn Greenwald must be one of the 20% of Americans who suffer from mental illness.<br /><br />http://www.cnbc.com/id/40257359<br /><br />Since 18% of Americans describe themselves as liberals, that accounts for most of it. The rest must be due to second hand insanity among those who have to deal with them constantly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-22513824976855446472010-11-20T13:36:18.825-05:002010-11-20T13:36:18.825-05:00If you look at the history of Greenwald's writ...If you look at the history of Greenwald's writing on the subject, you'd see that his concern isn't dual loyalty per se, it's the hypocritical use of the concept of dual loyalty on the right (trotting it out to smear opponents while actively using it to encourage Jews to adopt "pro-Israel" positions) that bother him. See, for example, these paragraphs from a July 2008 post (http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2008/07/02/israel_iran):<br /><br />"As I've documented previously, the very same right-wing advocates who scream "anti-semitism" at anyone, such as Klein, who raises the issue of devotion to Israel themselves constantly argue that American Jews do -- and should -- cast their votes in American elections based upon what is best for Israel. They nakedly trot out the "dual loyalty" argument in order to manipulate American Jews to vote Republican in U.S. elections (e.g.: "the GOP supports Israel and Obama doesn't; therefore, American Jews shouldn't vote for Obama"), while screaming "anti-semitism" the minute the premise is used by their political opponents. The Weekly Standard ran articles openly arguing that American Jews should vote Republican because the GOP is better for Israel, and Joe Lieberman runs around South Florida telling Jewish voters that they should vote for McCain because Obama isn't good for Israel. <br /><br />The most recent blatant example of nakedly exploiting "dual loyalty" and "anti-Semitism" claims comes from Commentary's Jennifer Rubin. Rubin was one of those most viciously attacking Klein, accusing him last week of spouting what she called "the anti-Semitic argument of 'divided loyalties.'" Yet today -- barely a week later -- Rubin has a long Op-Ed in The Jerusalem Post which is probably the most unabashed expression of this "dual loyalty" argument that I've seen in quite some time. <br /><br />Her column is devoted to arguing that many American Jews -- despite their commitment to political liberalism -- are (justifiably) reluctant to vote for Obama because "some Jews are incapable of deluding themselves that Obama would be the most resolute candidate in defending Israel." What is that if not an argument that American Jewish voters cast their votes in American elections -- and should do so -- based on what is best for Israel, i.e. for he who is "the most resolute candidate in defending Israel"?"<br /><br />Perhaps he did misrepresent Cantor, in which case he should issue a correction, but his overarching point in focusing on this issue isn't to damn people like Eric Cantor for supporting Israel, it's to damn their hypocrisy (as was also made clear by his reference to the vilification of "Baghdad Bob" for doing essentially what Cantor and other Republicans have done--criticize America on foreign soil).Graham Griffithshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12561089210213759980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-61531281430331284782010-11-20T12:43:11.619-05:002010-11-20T12:43:11.619-05:00Speaking of dual-loyalties, if they want to cast s...Speaking of dual-loyalties, if they want to cast stones, well, many on the left seem more loyal to "world opinion" and the United Nations than America. Israel is a great ally. Why, in this dangerous world, would we not support an ally? Obama's attitude towards Israel has been shabby at best and his treatment of Netenyahu that time in the White House when he went to dinner and left Netenyahu hanging was a complete embarrassment. His treatment of the UK and its leaders is also embarrassing.LukeHandCoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14050153852654024997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-28907593179388027632010-11-20T12:30:18.537-05:002010-11-20T12:30:18.537-05:00What a hypocrite that Israel-fister is.What a hypocrite that Israel-fister is.Dan Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18003419431016626023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-34943959751636426802010-11-20T12:23:36.531-05:002010-11-20T12:23:36.531-05:00Same old same old. When you can't defend your ...Same old same old. When you can't defend your positions on their merits, attack, accuse, redirect, obfuscate, and do whatever it takes to frustrate intelligent discussion. <br /><br />That's how us Tea Party conservatives became "right wing extremists" despite promoting the majority view of Americans. It's how we became bigots. It's how we became nativists. It's how climate "scientists" trumped science with politics. The list is long. <br /><br />If we are going to get our supposedly deliberative government to work, we need to start weeding out those who only seek to end discussion with their lies and replace them with honest adults who seek truth-based solutions around which to form a popular consensus. This tyranny by elitists must end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-35447512930794207462010-11-20T12:05:07.193-05:002010-11-20T12:05:07.193-05:00But isn't that what chutzpah is all about...th...But isn't that what chutzpah is all about...those who throw themselves on the mercy of the court as orphans after having been convicted of murdering their parents?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com