tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post8169851411737520621..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Inevitable "Two Black Role Models Fall From Grace" PostWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-5992472510213787092009-12-18T23:12:01.757-05:002009-12-18T23:12:01.757-05:00Warhight - It would be hard to quantify, but "...Warhight - It would be hard to quantify, but "all of whom were as "famous" as Woods, at least for awhile," is a highly debatable statement. Especially since the length of the fame is important in making someone truly iconic. Ali is probably the only one who is both the best at what he did and for a long time, in addition to having popular culture recognize him as such.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00354892177141673039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-69430084038256301552009-12-18T02:59:09.206-05:002009-12-18T02:59:09.206-05:00But since Tiger is only 1/4 black... shouldn'...But since Tiger is only 1/4 black... shouldn't the polling drop be smoothed with a 25% fudge factor?<br /><br />Call it... Golf-a-gate.DANEgerushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583889628692284825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-6734549822038574682009-12-17T19:51:39.071-05:002009-12-17T19:51:39.071-05:00No response from JHess? Disappointing.No response from JHess? Disappointing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09187612000983657834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-14736184377243790682009-12-17T18:21:39.936-05:002009-12-17T18:21:39.936-05:00Amongst the hypberbole and plain lousy writing, th...Amongst the hypberbole and plain lousy writing, there are also numerous factual errors. One in particular caught my eye:<br /><br /><i>...the first black man to be famous for a sport other than basketball or football was really who he appeared he was.</i><br /><br />Talk about your "unconscious" racial stereotyping!<br /><br />Let's see: Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, Henry Aaron, Jesse Owens, Carl Lewis, Joe Louis, Clay/Ali...all of whom were as "famous" as Woods, at least for awhile, even if they didn't get as many ad contracts. Besides being a poor writer, it seems she's not much of a sports fan or historian, either.Robert Pearsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01357942424904415208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-88315498418808129552009-12-17T11:16:31.909-05:002009-12-17T11:16:31.909-05:00Tiger's an excellent golfer, no one can take t...Tiger's an excellent golfer, no one can take that away. I'm sure it took plenty of hard work on his part. And, no, the PGA didn't shave points off his scores. This does distinguish him from Obama....to a point... <br /><br />The really lucrative stuff, the thing that made Tiger really high profile were the endorsements. They were something influential whites pushed him into. For the endorsements to pay off and keep coming, Tiger had to become a whiter-than-white role model in the golfing world. Obviously he's unsuited to this role.<br /><br />He'd have been better off seeking sponsorship from some prominent rappers, founding an all-black golf league, and endorsing Colt 45 rather than Buick. At least he could be the person he is rather than pretending to be something he isn't. <br /><br />Of course, Tiger's ego may have led him to believe he could swing it and become something he's not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-362957614018701592009-12-17T11:12:02.674-05:002009-12-17T11:12:02.674-05:00Tiger's not black - his mother is Thai and his...Tiger's not black - his mother is Thai and his father is 1/2 white and 1/2 black. Tiger is, at best, 1/4 black, but if anything he's "asian". He's been pointing this out for years now.<br /><br />It's interesting to me, though, how badly some people want him to be black.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092058022215678505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-19159058441922396852009-12-17T11:10:34.128-05:002009-12-17T11:10:34.128-05:00When exactly did Tiger Woods become black?
******...When exactly did Tiger Woods become black?<br /><br />**************************<br /><i>Dave B wrote:<br /><br />"Last time I checked they were two full grown accomplished men."</i><br />***************************<br /><br />When exactly did Barack Obama become accomplished?wuzzagrunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03293011873941804862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-27958141121182407432009-12-17T10:15:09.814-05:002009-12-17T10:15:09.814-05:00Both suffer from an overabundance of ego not melan...Both suffer from an overabundance of ego not melanin, period.Alan Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00669565332075044743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-8068016842079628462009-12-17T09:39:17.421-05:002009-12-17T09:39:17.421-05:00"The only thing they have in common is .... n...<em>"The only thing they have in common is .... nothing that has anything to do with their race."</em><br />I think you meant "the only thing they have in common is their race (or that fraction thereof they share), which has nothing to do with anything relevent to their respective problems."<br />That and they both play golf a lot.Jim Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912710881278409532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-87946511692078032862009-12-17T09:33:04.307-05:002009-12-17T09:33:04.307-05:00Yes, Tiger earned it all on his own. Putting (get...Yes, Tiger earned it all on his own. Putting (getting the ball in the hole) doesn't lie. He needed to perform and he did. (Suddenly all kinds of possibilites for jokes have popped into my head.)<br /><br />Obama, on the other hand, is in a completely different category. He's an example of a second order Peter Principle. Not only did he rise to a position for which he was not qualified, he rose at least one level above that. And it was mainly due to white guilt practiced by legions of white liberals. They find it impossible to live up to their professed creed, which is to judge people on their own merits, abilities, and accomplishments. Instead, way too often, they simply fall back on race and use that as the basis for supporting a person or a cause. I think that's what WJ might have been getting at in referring to the HuffPo'ers book - deep down in her innermost being she can't look at black people as simply people. They will always be black first. And from that guilt we get white liberals voting in an underqualified president.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-60728927905212161212009-12-17T08:52:06.008-05:002009-12-17T08:52:06.008-05:00Tiger DID work and earn his way into his position-...Tiger DID work and earn his way into his position--the PGA doesn't take strokes off his score because of his skin color, unlike the Columbia and Harvard admissions departments. That makes Obama and Tiger very different.<br /><br />(Whether or not hitting a ball with a stick is worthy of fame and fortune...for another day.)<br /><br />The lesson that should be learned from these two incidents (and OJ Simpson, Michael Jordan, etc) should be to look beyond the skin to the real man before enshrining a black athlete or politician as a role model. Sadly, I don't think the white tastemakers in America are willing to do that, for fear of being called racists.Radishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874715474300972336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-21482747811264225332009-12-17T08:36:28.606-05:002009-12-17T08:36:28.606-05:00Even if race does indeed figure into it, we can...Even if race does indeed figure into it, we can't use either as an effective object lesson, as neither is particularly "black."tom swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14418218837811379488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-17106288358870272572009-12-17T08:20:22.934-05:002009-12-17T08:20:22.934-05:00Race does have something to do with it, actually a...Race does have something to do with it, actually a lot. These two gentleman have the misfortune of being blacks who are attractive to influential whites. As a result they've been pushed to the front of the bus and into positions/roles they are unsuited for. <br /><br />If whites were truly color-blind, Obama and Tiger would've had to work and earn their way into these positions. This experience would've affected their judgment and every action once (and if) the high position was attained.<br /><br />The sad fact is that there are many blacks who have worked and earned their way into responsible, demanding positions. They have developed good judgment and effective work habits. But because they have a mind of their own and don't speak merely to please a white patron, they're not considered attractive enough to move ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-72853164189834370762009-12-17T08:04:28.692-05:002009-12-17T08:04:28.692-05:00Such nonsense.
And we wonder why Feminism is rend...Such nonsense.<br /><br />And we wonder why Feminism is rendered meaningless?<br /><br />sighStray Yellar Dawg?https://www.blogger.com/profile/04861846247063603370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-7589527733688956292009-12-17T01:45:51.773-05:002009-12-17T01:45:51.773-05:00I would rather dig for clams (not in Connecticut t...I would rather dig for clams (not in Connecticut though). I'm having trouble breathing the rarified air from Huff Post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-54826501106248490882009-12-17T00:14:54.745-05:002009-12-17T00:14:54.745-05:00I don't understand any of it. What does color ...I don't understand any of it. What does color have to do with anything? Are they supposed to be "self-loathing" because they're black? Two years ago she could have written an article about two white guys like George Bush and Ben Rothlesburger. What was the purpose of the article other than to remind us that we should be sensitive to their race and should give them some slack because of it? Talk about racist! Last time I checked they were two full grown accomplished men.Dave Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468715877874458173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-18303166683020626462009-12-16T21:50:43.423-05:002009-12-16T21:50:43.423-05:00Jhess: what, exactly, is the stereotype here?Jhess: what, exactly, is the stereotype here?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09187612000983657834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-88931092884560570222009-12-16T20:11:12.673-05:002009-12-16T20:11:12.673-05:00Great post thanks for bringing it to my attention....Great post thanks for bringing it to my attention. Wow, it's amazing how telling one can be by what they say and how they think. I do not think President Obama thought health care reform, two wars, terrorism and oh yea the failing economy was going to be a walk in the park. So I am having trouble seeing the comparison between he and Tiger. What do these two men being black have to do with anything other then stereotyping?Jhesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18203331749861061264noreply@blogger.com