tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post6080642099639681989..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Gaza Human Shields and The Turkey ProblemWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-34785414340904365992010-06-02T08:34:17.262-04:002010-06-02T08:34:17.262-04:00I thought that those guns looked like paint ball g...I thought that those guns looked like paint ball guns. Please tell me you're kidding. If that was the case, then I have absolutely NO sympathy for the Israelis. If you're going to drop your commandos into what anyone above the age of 5 will tell you will be a hostile situation, and you arm them with paint ball guns, then the people running things not only need to be fired, but criminally prosecuted. Regardless of whether they were armed with paint ball guns or not, the operation was such a disaster, that a bunch of highups in the Israeli structure there should be fired anyway. <br />When dealing with Islam, there is no room for games.Van Halenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636153816814457813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-25184766377123417262010-05-31T16:35:28.318-04:002010-05-31T16:35:28.318-04:00I lived in Adana, Turkey from late '77 to earl...I lived in Adana, Turkey from late '77 to early '79 and breaks my heart that Turkey no longer resembles the country I lived in. The Turks I knew back then were modern and secular. They were our friends and allies. Those days are gone.Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892433094729392295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-77168224879933708342010-05-31T16:06:24.145-04:002010-05-31T16:06:24.145-04:00@Nathan, wow eye-opening, thank you.@Nathan, wow eye-opening, thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-85576962676105162452010-05-31T15:44:07.937-04:002010-05-31T15:44:07.937-04:00Nathan, as to your point about taking action- that...Nathan, as to your point about taking action- that's the tricky part here: if the Israelis delay action, it buys Iran and other hostile nations more time to grow more powerful in the region (which Obama doesn't mind because he can vote "present" on it), but if they do take action, then the UN, et al will condemn it and gang up, and Obama will agree in so many words. Obama won't even condemn a boycott that hurts his own citizens in a deep recession- there's no way he would support unilateral action by the Israelis, whom he views as being nothing more than a burden to him. <br /><br />Related story: the GuardianUK is now reporting that the US has been, "[S]ending a succession of envoys to engage with Hamas but lacks the bravery to talk to the Islamist movement openly, it's leader, Khaled Meshal, said in an interview with the Guardian. Meshal praised President Dmitry Medvedev of Russia for meeting him in Damascus and the Syrian President...He told Medvedev that the US was also talking to him. 'I thanked him for that meeting and told him the Americans contact us, but are not brave enough to do so openly'....Meshal said the tectonic plates in the Middle East were shifting, with Iran, Turkey and Syria emerging as regional powers..."<br /><br />I think that we can safely say that when it comes to foreign policy, Obama isn't simply the clueless bumbler who believes in appeasement, the way that some view him. This is all being done by strategic design.A.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04715847289617725350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-75699642469402109382010-05-31T15:05:02.255-04:002010-05-31T15:05:02.255-04:00pasadenaphil - "The US is systematically aban...pasadenaphil - "The US is systematically abandoning all of its traditional allies"<br /><br />America has done no such thing. We are still here, slowly awakening and slowly responding to overturn the marxist coup. <br /><br />But in the meantime, our America hating muslim marxist is busy destroying the West and America, while aiding his pals.<br /><br />The marxist coup has us weakened and with a fever. Unlike Honduras, we let our coup infestation grow, making it more painful to cut out the diseased parts later. We are on our sickbed, but we'll be back. (We could use allies to help us, but they're all down with their own sicknesses just now.)<br /><br />We hope that our allies are able to stand on their own until we get back up; that we all come through this, and beat the disease swarm.sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980976047602693896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-23806270303711252472010-05-31T14:51:29.555-04:002010-05-31T14:51:29.555-04:00jameserictodd said...
I agree with everything yo...jameserictodd said... <br /><br />I agree with everything you said. I guess my point has more to do with the absurdity of having non-elected elites impose supranational organizations. It is a stretch to begin with just to perceive Europe as an assembly of nations. Anyone who has traveled Europe can tell you that people there are regional almost to the point of being tribal. <br /><br />To pretend that Turkey, form where the Byzantium empire once dominated Europe, could ever be accepted as a European country ignores the provincial realities. Tempting Turkey with EU membership and then denying it to them has caused irreparable harm. What were the European elites thinking?<br /><br />All of these foolish attempts to globalize the world are doomed to fail. What has NAFTA accomplished for North America other than to poison American culture while destroying Central and northern South America with drug cartels and citizens who now feel they are entitled to the rights of American citizenship? <br /><br />There are very good reasons why cities, states and nations matter. We aren't ready for world government and never will be, especially one that is imposed without first establishing a democratic consensus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-18669258278641929902010-05-31T13:25:54.625-04:002010-05-31T13:25:54.625-04:00This really saddens me. I was in Turkey during th...This really saddens me. I was in Turkey during the last elections when the Islamist government won the elections. I have friends in Turkey that are western loving liberal people. They were very upset by the election outcome. Many of them were women and they were afraid of changes that might take place that would limit their rights. Many of the strongest defenders of liberal government in Turkey are women because they stand to lose the most if Islam becomes the law of the land. I will not give up hope on Turkey yet. I think Turkey is a lot like the USA is right now. There are deep divisions. The AKP party, much like the Democrats in the USA, is running things differently than previous administrations and alienating traditional allies. AKP won 46.6% of the vote in 2007 but only 39% in 2009. I can only hope that they continue to loss support. <br /><br />Pasadenaphil, I don't think Turkey wants to be in the EU anymore. They spent decades liberalizing their government and economy. They adopted measure after measure to try and join the EU. The Europeans still kept them at arms length and rejected them. The actions of the Europeans are part of the reason why Turkey is looking to strengthen ties with countries like Iran. The Europeans rejected Turkey. Of course, they were going to start looking for friends in other places.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-73375862339507960832010-05-31T12:37:22.513-04:002010-05-31T12:37:22.513-04:00Blog, here's another source from another blog:...Blog, here's another source from another blog:<br /><br />http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/05/idf-flotilla-refused-security.html<br /><br />Read it, the people in the flotilla were most definitely not "unarmed."Mr. Trollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04893890188859002277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-87669444129979334102010-05-31T12:11:37.568-04:002010-05-31T12:11:37.568-04:00Really, you don't think Israel could have hand...Really, you don't think Israel could have handled a bunch of unarmed people without violence? 1976 Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Mairead Corrigan-Maguire of Northern Ireland is a terrorist? You don't think people in gaza are actually suffering because of Israel's actions? What's the solution mr professor at Cornell Law? You think the continued settlement building is not wrong? Do palestinians have any rights at all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-35578621143196253082010-05-31T11:31:43.304-04:002010-05-31T11:31:43.304-04:00BTW, can anyone still seriously argue that Turkey ...BTW, can anyone still seriously argue that Turkey belongs in the European Union? Luckily, the EU won't be around much longer other than as a logo printing Monopoly money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-76154829554058134122010-05-31T11:26:50.719-04:002010-05-31T11:26:50.719-04:00The US is systematically abandoning all of its tra...The US is systematically abandoning all of its traditional allies one by one. We now live in a "borderless" country led by "citizens of the world" that officially seeks "multiculturalism" while preaching that the American culture is the oppressive force. It begs the question: Who is "us" these days? If "us" is everyone else, then who is "them"? Somehow we have allowed ourselves to become linguistically invisible in our own country while becoming the enemy. <br /><br />With only tyrants as allies, we better save ourselves because there is no where to run. Our country has been taken over by pod people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-15470944606072568212010-05-31T10:20:24.233-04:002010-05-31T10:20:24.233-04:00On another point: you have to wonder at what point...On another point: you have to wonder at what point the Israelis are going to get fed up with the lack of support from Washington and start taking matters into their own hands...Mr. Trollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04893890188859002277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-67259275392938429372010-05-31T10:05:19.049-04:002010-05-31T10:05:19.049-04:00As bad as the twentieth century wars were, the war...As bad as the twentieth century wars were, the wars of the twenty first will be worse. President Obama needs to put the bust of Winston Churchill back in the Oval Office. <br /><br />The Koran is a book of war.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00738250639024492765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-35546919256380100072010-05-31T08:44:56.359-04:002010-05-31T08:44:56.359-04:00Possibly, the US has a problem because the violent...Possibly, the US has a problem because the violent words and actions of their ally, and the creation of a de facto Kurdistan in northern Iraq on Turkey's border, has alienated and destabilized a formerly largely secular and pro-Western Muslim nation.CurmudgeonlyTrollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02004282752334460717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-13394432410015127392010-05-31T08:28:38.595-04:002010-05-31T08:28:38.595-04:00TURKEY IS PART OF THE AXIS OF ISLAMISM - WITH IRAN...TURKEY IS PART OF THE AXIS OF ISLAMISM - WITH IRAN, AL Q, TALIBAN, HAMAS AND HIZBALLAH.<br /><br />THEY DELIBERATELY TOOK PART IN THE FLOTILLA IN ORDER TO TURN IT INTO AN INCITING INCIDENT FROM WHICH THEY COULD INVOKE NATO ARTICLE 5.<br /><br />THEY ARE NO LONG ER PART OF THE WEST.<br /><br />THEY SHOUL,D BE THROWN OUT OF NATO.Reliapundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12942299527008194753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-38501035867530514412010-05-31T08:11:26.590-04:002010-05-31T08:11:26.590-04:00America, as run by this completely insane administ...America, as run by this completely insane administration, will not see Turkey, particularly a heavily Islamic Turkey, as a problem (but perhaps as a solution to the "Israel problem" BO has?). <br /><br />Without America to take the lead, all of Europe is already getting this all wrong. I fear for Israel.Fuzzy Slippershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021615731454709413noreply@blogger.com