tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post6060042758562796038..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Obamacare's Chickens Coming Home To Roost AlreadyWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-82284542096306039252010-03-28T19:50:55.796-04:002010-03-28T19:50:55.796-04:00Public pensions get the subsidy too. Will they hav...Public pensions get the subsidy too. Will they have to forfeit and send their retirees into Medicare?PatCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920623662477828662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-71151650571591308982010-03-28T19:42:12.698-04:002010-03-28T19:42:12.698-04:00Also, Josephine, from here:
"The cost to tax...Also, Josephine, from <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/429537/obamacare-dystopia/mark-steyn" rel="nofollow">here</a>:<br /><br />"The cost to taxpayers of that 28 percent [subsidy] is about $665 per person. The cost to taxpayers of equivalent Medicare coverage is about $1,200 per person. So we’re roughly doubling the cost of covering an estimated 5 million retirees."Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02241077296337985092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-44097682841114674532010-03-28T19:25:14.282-04:002010-03-28T19:25:14.282-04:00I think this sort of immediate blowback is critica...I think this sort of immediate blowback is critical to the repeal effort. The Dems laced all sorts of short-term goodies into the bill, clearly hoping that it would medicate sufficient numbers of Americans into thinking, "Oh, this isn't that bad after all!", resulting in paltry or moderate Congressional losses in November. However, if large sections of the economy stagger all at once, thousands of people get laid off, and thousands more lose large chunks of their benefits - 'Repeal It!' may indeed be the rallying cry of one of the most dramatic political turnarounds in American history.<br /><br />And Josephine, I agree - how about instead of Obamacare we follow the recent *GOP* idea to let individuals take the same tax writeoffs as companies for purchasing health coverage? That way, *everybody* would have access to that benefit, whether they're working or not!Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02241077296337985092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-9969897871015518322010-03-28T17:50:01.101-04:002010-03-28T17:50:01.101-04:00Looks like ski resorts and medical device mfgs. ar...Looks like ski resorts and medical device mfgs. are also too stupid to realize how good Obamacare is for them: http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2010/03/brace-for-economic-impact.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17958925393323312930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-12929240187300308842010-03-28T12:41:20.177-04:002010-03-28T12:41:20.177-04:00And little henry waxman is going to start the inqu...And little henry waxman is going to start the inquisition in the last week of April. Basically to satisfy his own ego and lust for control. Sounds like his buddy Dingell. Dingell? Isn't that what is hanging off the rear view mirror?Glenn Mark Casselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305109383344139028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-12142306466272695302010-03-28T11:50:36.316-04:002010-03-28T11:50:36.316-04:00What's a tax-free subsidy to big companies oth...What's a tax-free subsidy to big companies other than wealth redistribution? I thought Republican's were against government handouts? <br /><br />And I don't think it has been calculated weather it's cheaper to distribute prescription drug benefits through medicare D or subsidized through big companies? Where are your numbers coming from?<br /><br />One thing that is clear, it is a lot fairer to the American people if tax money for drug benefits go to all retirees, not just those that happen to work for large companies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-23298672394472273002010-03-28T05:47:43.842-04:002010-03-28T05:47:43.842-04:00I've already written off our President as a le...I've already written off our President as a left wing idealogue socialist anti-American racist liar wealth distributer. He's the worst President we've ever had, I know that. He snookered and hoodwinked American voters with his smooth talk and a deceitful Chicago-style power take-over game plan that took advantage of our inate kindness and good will. I already get that. But what the hell is going on with the rest of these bastards in Congress? Is there a God damn decent Democrat in the entire bunch? Where the hell are they? If this is the shit that we are going to get from them then their entire party is going to be extinct shortly. They're selling out to people trying to take this country to her knees... and for what? Do they like living in a world where they have to lie and subvert the will of their constituents? Do they like being lumped in with guys like that nut traitor from California Bahgdad McDermott or Castro lovers like Maxine Waters? Do they even realize how ridiculous and completely out of touch they appear patting each other on the back for passing a bill they didn't even read while their constituents are in tears? What has this Administration done to them? Is there a real man in the bunch? Do they enjoy being "bent over" and humiliated in front of their entire country? Do they understand that there are real men, real patriots, outside the Washington Beltway that are appalled and actually embarassed? There's no spin for this. We are watching it with our own eyes. They're betraying their constituents and their country right before us and they think we can't see it or they believe they can talk their way out of it. Real men, the type that fight and bleed for our country, keep the peace on our streets, and who have served this nation couldn't possibly live in a world where they couldn't say what they wanted to say, vote the way they wanted to vote, or live in a world where everything was calculated. We'd go nuts and we surely wouldn't feel like men.Dave Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468715877874458173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-59120440628439492172010-03-27T23:04:32.073-04:002010-03-27T23:04:32.073-04:00I am not sure what Waxman hopes to gain. It is a ...I am not sure what Waxman hopes to gain. It is a matter of law and the SEC that these companies are required to announce financial impacts as soon as they know them. It seems that all hearings would do is emphasize the problems. I don't know what Waxman hopes to gain. Moreover, I would expect other companies to start releasing their evaluations. It will become a flood and Waxman cannot bring them all to the inquisition.Rick Cairdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245560010738892296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-53883657445839632492010-03-27T21:18:41.272-04:002010-03-27T21:18:41.272-04:00BTW, Waxman sent a warning out to other corporatio...BTW, Waxman sent a warning out to other corporations - speak up like this and YOU will be summoned to account for your disloyalty. You can bet Verizon executives will come smiling and grovelling, using complex flowery speech to worm around the real topic - that they just got their asses handed to them by the very people their union (Communications Workers of America) worked very hard to get elected. Will other corporations suddenly find ways to disguise their losses so as not to offend the dicator and draw his wrath? Time will tell.Van Halenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636153816814457813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-47929325854007456602010-03-27T21:15:27.797-04:002010-03-27T21:15:27.797-04:00I would like to see a posting here elaborating on ...I would like to see a posting here elaborating on where this puts the economy. If THIS many top corporations (that we know of so far) have had to write off THIS kind of money, this can't simply go unnoticed over the next few days, weeks or months. Wouldn't this ripple out to do serious damage somewhere in our economy?Van Halenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636153816814457813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-68206167303621709982010-03-27T18:13:15.132-04:002010-03-27T18:13:15.132-04:00So, the law is on the companies' sides, and Wa...So, the law is on the companies' sides, and Waxman is mad. Is this a we make the rules up as we go moment?Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06320105485736052679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-24336178597509127782010-03-27T17:15:46.603-04:002010-03-27T17:15:46.603-04:00The last part is particularly chilling:
"H...The last part is particularly chilling: <br /><br />"Henry Waxman not only orders the CEOs of AT&T, Caterpillar, Deere & Co, and Verizon to testify before the Energy and Commerce Committee, but also to produce internal analyses and emails related to their statements."<br /><br />Meaning that you must go along or you WILL appear before the Politburo to explain yourself.<br /><br />Re-education Camps, anyone?Beer, Bicycles and the VRWChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08976779901265528597noreply@blogger.com