tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post4579203836723010099..comments2023-10-24T11:23:31.580-04:00Comments on Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Now Might Be A Really Great Time (For Republicans) To Weaken The FilibusterWilliam A. Jacobsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16433685588536441422noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-79779806243755169422010-12-23T20:06:27.806-05:002010-12-23T20:06:27.806-05:00I could be wrong, but I don't see how you get ...<i>I could be wrong, but I don't see how you get a 2012 win out of this mess. </i><br /><br />He said "reasonable likelihood"; not lead-pipe cinch.Craig Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17778080830068892260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-9259853680243499412010-12-23T14:01:47.256-05:002010-12-23T14:01:47.256-05:00If the Democrats removed the filibuster rule and l...If the Democrats removed the filibuster rule and later lost the majority, wouldn't the obvious move be to reinstate the filibuster rule during the lame-duck session immediately following the election?<br /><br />At that point in time, they would still have a majority, they know that they will lose that majority, and there would be no filibuster rule to stop them from adding a filibuster rule to protect their interests when they are in the minority.<br /><br />Admittedly, I don't know much about US Senate procedural rules, but this strategy seems fairly sound to me.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-85054907659798320872010-12-23T13:53:28.044-05:002010-12-23T13:53:28.044-05:00This article was quoted here:
http://hotair.com/a...This article was quoted here:<br /><br />http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/23/the-filibuster-briar-patch/Tom E. Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13425789987903796346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-36506174119485960982010-12-23T13:04:24.609-05:002010-12-23T13:04:24.609-05:00"Republicans changed the game by threatening ..."Republicans changed the game by threatening to filibuster not just controversial appointments or the occasional bill, but just about everything..."<br /><br />Democrats had been filibustering record numbers of judicial nominees since 2001. Democrats also filibustered (or threatened to filibuster)...<br /><br />1. Every bill Republicans proposed for reigning in the runaway financial industry.<br />2. Virtually every Iraq war funding resolution (they passed anyway via budget reconciliation)Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06319411779044647512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-82077971917461916292010-12-23T12:56:39.417-05:002010-12-23T12:56:39.417-05:00Anyone who actually cares about their country want...Anyone who actually cares about their country wants the highest degree of accountability, which the current filibuster abuse interferes with. Of course, I don't count any Teabaggers in that group.LosGatosCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06924095883170601375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-15307342920481809062010-12-23T11:26:59.625-05:002010-12-23T11:26:59.625-05:00This may sound naive, but the question could prese...This may sound naive, but the question could presented apolitically: the party with a majority in the Senate should have a reasonable shot at getting its legislation through. <br /><br />Politically, the difference that malclave and Tom Dickson-Hunt are ignoring is that the Republicans changed the game by threatening to filibuster not just controversial appointments or the occasional bill, but just about everything, just to stymie Obama in the run-up to the elections. This was novel, and an unprecedented abuse of the filibuster.Huntingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260710642902540934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-52012399120284788162010-12-23T09:54:29.567-05:002010-12-23T09:54:29.567-05:00I love when dems do stupid stuff like this. A cha...I love when dems do stupid stuff like this. A change in the filibuster (that will undoubtedly help dems)? Good grief. Do you remember when Mass changed its succession laws for seating new senators to accommodate Teddy's wish to keep Kerry's seat in democrat hands if he'd won the WH? And how the resulting special election gave us Scott Brown in Ted's seat?Fuzzy Slippershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021615731454709413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-82711370488759631032010-12-23T00:05:45.807-05:002010-12-23T00:05:45.807-05:00This is actually one of the issues that really pis...This is actually one of the issues that really pisses me off, and accelerated my recent change of heart as regards politics. Back in 2003 the Republicans were pushing the 'nuclear option' with regards to judicial nominations, and Democrats were screaming about the rights of the minority and how it was completely unconscionable. And I agreed. And then as soon as they get a majority and Republicans appear to be intending to filibuster stuff, what do they do now? Gah.alethiophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16351359469772507936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-70505418389954454972010-12-22T22:10:28.918-05:002010-12-22T22:10:28.918-05:00Well, I'm sure the Democrats, even if in the m...Well, I'm sure the Democrats, even if in the minority, would never seek to filibuster anything. Especially something like a Supreme Court nomination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-18848986425909525672010-12-22T21:15:30.703-05:002010-12-22T21:15:30.703-05:00Oh, puhleez don't throw me into that briar pat...Oh, puhleez don't throw me into that briar patch...!dave in bocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164227301361227792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-50067387224826681492010-12-22T20:10:08.989-05:002010-12-22T20:10:08.989-05:00Yes I do, Xian, but there are plenty of senators v...Yes I do, Xian, but there are plenty of senators vulnerable in 2012 who might be convinced to flip on a repeal vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-18653806670123591252010-12-22T19:41:45.672-05:002010-12-22T19:41:45.672-05:00pubsecrets, why would they need a filibuster when ...pubsecrets, why would they need a filibuster when Obama can just veto, which is even harder to overturn than a fillibuster?Tlalochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16357673798336376049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-44579370823571301502010-12-22T19:39:48.288-05:002010-12-22T19:39:48.288-05:00"In 2012 there is a reasonable likelihood of ..."In 2012 there is a reasonable likelihood of a Republican majority in both houses of Congress. "<br /><br />I suppose this is based on the idea that a lot of Democrat voters are going to support the Republicans in 2012, because they saw how the Republicans cooperated with the Democrats and passed every thing that Obama wanted in the lame duck session.<br />In my many years, I do not believe I have ever seen such a complete capitulation as we saw on deals like the S510 Destroy the Family farm bill. Which came after the Save the estate tax bill(which was billed as some kind of a Republican victory?) so that every remaining family farm will be broken up for taxes. <br /><br />I could be wrong, but I don't see how you get a 2012 win out of this mess.lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05329025378677523718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-14042546574527640112010-12-22T19:37:54.499-05:002010-12-22T19:37:54.499-05:00pubsecrets, you do realize that the Republicans do...pubsecrets, you do realize that the Republicans do not have a simple majority in the Senate?xianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264552034193633118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-11681179981164054242010-12-22T17:23:36.626-05:002010-12-22T17:23:36.626-05:00They need to repeal it with the same filibuster-si...They need to repeal it with the same filibuster-sidestepping budgetary shenanigans that were used to pass it in the first place, and let the donks explain why such a procedural move is unconscionable. Goose, meet gander.Cowboy Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14837190944671143418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522121129844880066.post-16392030142849349252010-12-22T16:47:34.781-05:002010-12-22T16:47:34.781-05:00If the Ds are really that stupid (and I put nothin...If the Ds are really that stupid (and I put nothing past Reid), the Republicans should tell them to go right ahead. Then the House's first order of business should be repealing ObamaCare and sending the bill to the Senate. It would be a joy to watch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com